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Smith and Lockers in this year's dream team 
superleague.co.uk/article/31092/ ... per-league
Team in full:
Full-back: Zak Hardaker (Leeds Rhinos) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Wing: Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos) Dream Team appearances: 4 (2009, 2010, 2012, 2014)
Centre: Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Centre: Kallum Watkins (Leeds Rhinos) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Wing: Tommy Makinson (St Helens) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Stand-off: Kevin Brown (Widnes Vikings) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Scrum-half: [uMatty Smith[/u (Wigan Warriors) Dream Team appearances: 2 (2013, 2014)
Prop: Jamie Peacock (Leeds Rhinos) Dream Team appearances: 10 (2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014)
Hooker: Daryl Clark (Castleford Tigers) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Prop: Chris Hill (Warrington Wolves) Dream Team appearances: 2 (2012, 2014)
Second Row: Elliott Whitehead (Catalan Dragons) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Second Row: Carl Ablett (Leeds Rhinos) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Loose forward: [uSean O’Loughlin[/u (Wigan Warriors) Dream Team appearances: 5 (2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014) |
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Smith and Lockers in this year's dream team
superleague.co.uk/article/31092/ ... per-league
Team in full:
Full-back: Zak Hardaker (Leeds Rhinos) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Wing: Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos) Dream Team appearances: 4 (2009, 2010, 2012, 2014)
Centre: Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Centre: Kallum Watkins (Leeds Rhinos) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Wing: Tommy Makinson (St Helens) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Stand-off: Kevin Brown (Widnes Vikings) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Scrum-half: [uMatty Smith[/u (Wigan Warriors) Dream Team appearances: 2 (2013, 2014)
Prop: Jamie Peacock (Leeds Rhinos) Dream Team appearances: 10 (2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014)
Hooker: Daryl Clark (Castleford Tigers) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Prop: Chris Hill (Warrington Wolves) Dream Team appearances: 2 (2012, 2014)
Second Row: Elliott Whitehead (Catalan Dragons) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Second Row: Carl Ablett (Leeds Rhinos) Dream Team appearances: 1 (2014)
Loose forward: [uSean O’Loughlin[/u (Wigan Warriors) Dream Team appearances: 5 (2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014) | |
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Joke team really. They've started to pick only English players for some reason.
Escare and Joel Monaghan have been sensational all year.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Joke team really. They've started to pick only English players for some reason.
Escare and Joel Monaghan have been sensational all year.'"
It's a bold attempt to try and big up the England team. |
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Joke team really. They've started to pick only English players for some reason.
Escare and Joel Monaghan have been sensational all year.'"
Ryan Hall's inclusion was a puzzler for me. Monaghan, Carney or Joe Burgess should have been in there. McGillvary and Charnley have had better seasons, he's in there on reputation alone.
And yes, that's two seasons in a row now that every player has been English. It's drastically losing any credibility. 5 players from Leeds in a year they've finished 6th just highlights where a lot of the journalists who pick it are based IMO. |
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Hardaker's inclusion is a disgrace imo and belittles the whole concept.
already had a lengthy ban, and odds on to receive another? absolute joke.
congrats Kevin Brown btw, well deserves and got to be on MOS shortlist
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thats actually quite amusing
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| Quote WARRIORCRAIG="WARRIORCRAIG"Ryan Hall's inclusion was a puzzler for me. Monaghan, Carney or Joe Burgess should have been in there. McGillvary and Charnley have had better seasons, he's in there on reputation alone.
And yes, that's two seasons in a row now that every player has been English. It's drastically losing any credibility. 5 players from Leeds in a year they've finished 6th just highlights where a lot of the journalists who pick it are based IMO.'"
Cause he is, nothing to do with him being easily the best winger in the league, and if he in there on reputation then surely how do you explain sol inclusion, done nothing all year. |
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| Quote wigan pie man="wigan pie man"Hardaker's inclusion is a disgrace imo and belittles the whole concept.
already had a lengthy ban, and odds on to receive another? absolute joke.
Tissues are on offer at Asda, go wipe your tears away.
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"Cause he is, nothing to do with him being easily the best winger in the league, and if he in there on reputation then surely how do you explain sol inclusion, done nothing all year.'"
Lockers was sensational at the start of the season but I agree he shouldn't be there. Not should Hall! He's the best winger in the league and probably the world but as ever he's had a reasonably quiet year and saved himself for the big games. He was sensational in the cup final but that doesn't count towards this and no doubt he'll be brilliant in the play offs but his inclusion is for no other reason then him being English (a bit like Lockers although I'd have put Westerman in anyway).
Joel Monaghan has knocked spots off all wingers this year and his exclusion alone make this team a ridiculous selection for me. |
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"Cause he is, nothing to do with him being easily the best winger in the league, and if he in there on reputation then surely how do you explain sol inclusion, done nothing all year.'"
Who would you put at 13 over Lockers then? Other than possibly Westerman, who's had a decent seaon for the league's biggest underacheivers, there hasn't been a better 13 in SL this season. And he hasn't missed anywhere near as many as some like to make out, he's 17 of 27 SL games.
Stating "he's easily the best winger in the league" seems to be exactly what the journos selecting the dream team have done, because purely on this year's form there are 3 or 4 wingers who have had better seasons. |
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perhaps it should just be decided on a points system; tries, yardage, assists, offloads etc - someone with time & a fresh set of batteries in their calculator should be able to work it out for each position. At least then we'd not be pointing at any Pennine bias.
All academic anyway, I'm more exercised by who McBanana's going to select for the tour down-under - anyone who heard him trying to justify being half a planet away from the bulk of his squad the other day should be equally bothered IMO.
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| Quote WARRIORCRAIG="WARRIORCRAIG"Who would you put at 13 over Lockers then? Other than possibly Westerman, who's had a decent seaon for the league's biggest underacheivers, there hasn't been a better 13 in SL this season. And he hasn't missed anywhere near as many as some like to make out, he's 17 of 27 SL games.
Stating "he's easily the best winger in the league" seems to be exactly what the journos selecting the dream team have done, because purely on this year's form there are 3 or 4 wingers who have had better seasons.'"
It's not my job to pick the team, every year there is debate on who should be in and who should not, and it's often very difficult to pick and some players who have had great seasons don't get picked, people are often disappointed when a player they watch most weeks does not get selected. But peaple should congratulate the players who get picked, rather than having childish spats and name calling opposition players. Leeds have a few in this year but have had very little and even none in title winning years, it's just the way it goes. |
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