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| I am going to copy and paste with some tweaks, what I posted elsewhere last week.
These are all my personal opinions, as much as I would like to see this team stay together and rule the league, I don't see it happening so for me, this is what I would do:
1: Williams, great player, good kicker, has a voice on the pitch but if the rest of the team are not performing alongside him, then he struggles. (Keep but get him the support on the pitch he needs)
2: Vaughan, needs players to play with, needs players who are willing to run alongside him and show for the ball if he gets an arm free, most of the time he doesn't have that. He should be hitting harder I think but when he doesn't get much of a run up because no one in the team seems to want to use his size and strength I think he is being let down, not letting us down, I think he is being let down by the rest of the team. (Keep if we get players to support him, or him to support others with big runs etc)
He needs to stop with the Arm Drops into players faces when he has tackled them, stop trying to milk penalties and just get on with the game, just because other teams try to do it, doesn't mean we should copy it!
3: Ashton/Walker/Powell, I think they show a lot of "want" and "Skill" with desire to play and win, the issue is again, the players alongside them don't seem to support them fully, Powell needs to show more though at times but I do think he is a good player. (100% keep build a team around them 3)
4: Sneyd, keep for another season whilst looking for a permanent replacement kicker, he isn't getting any younger and we need to get a young kicker or two, have them alternate taking kicks so they both keep in form instead of relying on one kicker and when they get injured having no one really to rely on.
5: Dufty, sadly I think it's time to call it, he just doesn't appear to me to be putting in 100% each game, whether that is because he just isn't bothered or because of the rest of the team I don't know, but I think he needs to move on.
6: Philbin, I like him, I think he gives as much as he can, but I think like Vaughan he needs more from the surrounding players, I think he needs to move on to another club where they will utilise him better.
7: Currie, get's a lot of stick from people but he is a general work horse of sorts, but I think to many times you will see him with his hands on his hips or head looking like he is clueless of what is happening or what to do. He should go to another team after this season sadly.
8: Lindop, being used as a "Scape Goat" by a few fans for Wembley, but I think he needs more time to learn but I think it might be worth loaning him out to someone like Wakey, Hull FC or Leigh for a season, somewhere where he will be a starting player and get that experience I think he is missing.
9: Tai, personally I think he is a really good player, I think though he just doesn't get the support he needs and for that reason I think he needs to find another team, I suspect Wigan/Saints would snap him up and he would thrive!
10: Wood, Crowther, Harrison, move on to another club, they would I think be better off.
11: Yates, give him another season, he puts in effort and I think another season with a team built around Walker, Ashton and Powell would help him as he reminds me of Burrow in a way.
Put a hard rule in place, no new recruit can be over the age of 24, cannot be injured at the time of signing and must be willing to sign a contract with the clause for players from Australia etc "if you go home due to being home sick, you cannot play in the NRL for 1 season" let's see how many are truly homesick!
All the rest would be told to have their agents or be looking themselves for other clubs.
Coaching staff, completely get rid of them all, start with a new coach, new training team etc.
Then because it will take sometime for the team to get to know each other properly and get to grips with playing with each other in a team etc, make the target for the first season or two, top 6, don't worry about the challenge cup, grand final, league leaders etc, go for Top 6 and anything extra is a bonus.
The problem is finding players and coaching staff etc that would want to come here, because frankly at the moment I cannot see us attracting many players or coaches.
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| WireWireWire:
Well we've been outbid by York Knights for the services of literally our only decent forward. And are "looking at options to strengthen our pack for next season" so don't even have a replacement lined up to have had reason to let him go.
As I've stated if the numbers I've heard are true then I really don't blame Vaughan for signing and I don't blame our board for matching their silly numbers. He'll be a big loss.
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| BarbedWire2:Lord Tony Smith:lefty goldblatt:karetaker:Lord Tony Smith:
That Daryl Powell looks a good coach. We should go after him? Anyone know where Wakey got him from?
Tesco on Winnwick Road after he got dumped outside the HJ stadium. Daryl Powell, you say?Isn't that the fella who brought his USELESS mates from Castleford, and took us 15 minutes from relegation?.....or was that his identical twin? Sorry I must have missed the great job Burgess is doing this season. Bit weird how Powell's had success at every other club though, isn't it? Almost like he wasn't the issue. Success is relative though isn’t it. If Powell makes6th at Wakefield he gets a statue and the big fella gives him credit in the media. If he finished 6th here it’s squeaking into the play offs and another dud season. At Cas, where he was long enough to make a real change, he finished 1st, 3rd, 4th (twice) but finished with 7th and 8th positions. Yes they made finals, and won a hub cap, and that is successful for Castleford but that saw Price chopped here, and he won a cup. I get that some clubs are afforded wiggle room as they are the lowest spenders, but that’s because the clubs are badly run. It’s a capped sport at the top, we play on the same grass, the players are grown, professional sportsmen. Powell’s success has an asterisk. The same level of “success” got him sacked in his second season having completely gutted the club from top to bottom, with literally a handful of players surviving that period. He’s having the year of his life and he’s 4 points ahead of us who are having a shocking season without half of our star players for much of the middle of the year. There was zero, ZERO, evidence that he could do the job here. We were really fortunate to survive that first year. You don't give Powell much credit, some points in reply. 1. Success is indeed relative, so are consequences. Powell was sacked with his Warrington side higher placed in the league than we find ourselves currently and with 3 more wins than we currently have! 2. Price was here for the duration of his 4 year contract, ergo not chopped. Arguably he should have been chopped earlier though. 2 home playoff defeats should have been enough. 3. Our expectations are so dulled now that squeaking into the playoffs in 6th is the stretch target currently. Hard to argue we have high expectations. 4. The cap does not stop the wealthy teams spending £350K+ each on 3 x marquee players, our hundreds of £K on facilities that the poorer sides just cannot afford. It's not a level playing field by any means. 5. Powell is a far more experienced and accomplished coach than Burgess. He won a LLS and made a GF with an unfashionable, financially poor club. Both superior coaching achievements than 2 x CCF runner up. 6. Powell was criticised for his recruitment of past players but nothing as poor as compared to the recruitment that Sam has overseen for 2025. Whatever went wrong at Warrington for Powell, is happening again this season under a different coach.
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Well we've been outbid by York Knights for the services of literally our only decent forward. And are "looking at options to strengthen our pack for next season" so don't even have a replacement lined up to have had reason to let him go.
As I've stated if the numbers I've heard are true then I really don't blame Vaughan for signing and I don't blame our board for matching their silly numbers. He'll be a big loss. The last time we were consistently at the top end of the table, we had FOUR quality, decent size props Morley Carvell Wood Hill. Next season, Gawd 'elp us Chambers (stop laughing at the back), has a LOT of work on his hands.
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| I was only thinking about that pack last night - don't make me weep again!
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| Wires71:BarbedWire2:Lord Tony Smith:lefty goldblatt:karetaker:Lord Tony Smith:
That Daryl Powell looks a good coach. We should go after him? Anyone know where Wakey got him from?
Tesco on Winnwick Road after he got dumped outside the HJ stadium. Daryl Powell, you say?Isn't that the fella who brought his USELESS mates from Castleford, and took us 15 minutes from relegation?.....or was that his identical twin? Sorry I must have missed the great job Burgess is doing this season. Bit weird how Powell's had success at every other club though, isn't it? Almost like he wasn't the issue. Success is relative though isn’t it. If Powell makes6th at Wakefield he gets a statue and the big fella gives him credit in the media. If he finished 6th here it’s squeaking into the play offs and another dud season. At Cas, where he was long enough to make a real change, he finished 1st, 3rd, 4th (twice) but finished with 7th and 8th positions. Yes they made finals, and won a hub cap, and that is successful for Castleford but that saw Price chopped here, and he won a cup. I get that some clubs are afforded wiggle room as they are the lowest spenders, but that’s because the clubs are badly run. It’s a capped sport at the top, we play on the same grass, the players are grown, professional sportsmen. Powell’s success has an asterisk. The same level of “success” got him sacked in his second season having completely gutted the club from top to bottom, with literally a handful of players surviving that period. He’s having the year of his life and he’s 4 points ahead of us who are having a shocking season without half of our star players for much of the middle of the year. There was zero, ZERO, evidence that he could do the job here. We were really fortunate to survive that first year. You don't give Powell much credit, some points in reply. 1. Success is indeed relative, so are consequences. Powell was sacked with his Warrington side higher placed in the league than we find ourselves currently and with 3 more wins than we currently have! 2. Price was here for the duration of his 4 year contract, ergo not chopped. Arguably he should have been chopped earlier though. 2 home playoff defeats should have been enough. 3. Our expectations are so dulled now that squeaking into the playoffs in 6th is the stretch target currently. Hard to argue we have high expectations. 4. The cap does not stop the wealthy teams spending £350K+ each on 3 x marquee players, our hundreds of £K on facilities that the poorer sides just cannot afford. It's not a level playing field by any means. 5. Powell is a far more experienced and accomplished coach than Burgess. He won a LLS and made a GF with an unfashionable, financially poor club. Both superior coaching achievements than 2 x CCF runner up. 6. Powell was criticised for his recruitment of past players but nothing as poor as compared to the recruitment that Sam has overseen for 2025. Whatever went wrong at Warrington for Powell, is happening again this season under a different coach. Stop talking sense. I sort of get that some people resent Powell for the way it ended here, however even his biggest critic cannot deny he's obviously a damn competent SL coach. A lot better than the one we currently employ. I guess if people cannot see the only anomaly of Powell's coaching career is his time with us and put 2+2 together, then that's on them.
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